The biggest question I had from this episode was the title. Eggtown? What does Eggtown mean or refer to?
Just the fact that Locke was cooking up eggs for Ben? Since he said they were the last of them, it’s really not much of an “egg town” anymore is it? I’d love to hear your ideas because I’m at a loss.
Locke
One thing is is pretty evident: Locke is confused and suddenly has no direction. Ben points out that he can’t find the cabin, can’t find Jacob and is now even turning to Ben for advice.
I loved Ben recognizing that this is the same situation they were in before, but it involves a different cell. At the time Ben manipulated Locke and he’s doing it once more.
Locke leaves after getting nothing from Ben and throws the tray he made for him at the wall. Hmm, maybe that’s Eggtown?
Kate
The woman who is torn, or pretends to be torn, between Jack and Sawyer, starts off the episode by asking Locke if she can talk to Miles. He denies the request of course, so she spots Hugo carrying breakfast to someone and tricks him into giving away where Miles is kept.
Best line of the night, again from Hugo:
“You just totally Scooby-Dooed me, didn’t you?“
There is no doubt I’ll be using that line again. Thanks Hurley.
Kate flashforward
We jump to Kate in the future and she’s about to go on trial for the numerous charges she has against her, like murder, extortion, arson, and others. The downside to it all is her mother is the star witness, whom we all know Kate confessed to that she killed her deadbeat dad.
Her lawyer suggests that a deal is the only solution to not getting slammed with a life sentence. Kate say no deal, so he offers a character strategy. Kate somehow knows what he’s about to say and vehemently objects.
“You’re not using my son!”
Who, what, where, when? Son? My head hurts!!!
On The Island
Kate and Claire are hanging clothes out on the line and Aaron starts fussing. Maybe it was his gigantic diaper, I’m not sure. Claire ask Kate to grab him, but that’s no good ’cause Kate isn’t great with kids.
Foreshadowing of course from the above development. Although for me, it wastn’t a huge leap to guess what this scene really meant and I knew it from the get-go. I wont spoil it now for those that haven’t watched it yet, but you’ll read it at the botto.
The BIG LIE!
Back in the future, Kate is in the courtroom and apparently things aren’t going well. So her lawyer leans over, asks her not to fire him for his next move and then calls Jack to the stand. Yikes.
This leads to a HUGE clue in the mysterious reasons surrounding the Oceanic 6 and what Jack and Hurley are all torn up about. When Jack is on the stand, he’s there to talk about how Kate is a hero. Only, it’s for something that never happened.
He says: “Only 8 survived, we crashed in the water and Kate saved my life by pulling me to shore. I’d be dead if it wasn’t for her.”
Of course, we all know Vincent woke up Jack who was on dry land, so who and WHY is this lie the one concocted? And who the heck are the other two that apparently didn’t survive long enough to get “rescued” and why did they make that part up?
Kate stops Jack halfway through what he’s saying and says it’s not important, it doesn’t matter here. That’s the last question her lawyer has for him anyways, but the opposing legal counsel has her own cross-examination.
She asks Jack if he still loves Kate. Ouch. But he answers no, not anymore.
Okay then…
$3.2 Million Dollars
Kate comes up with a plan. She found Miles earlier, asked him if he knows who she is, but he wont answer a question until he gets a face-to-face meeting with Ben for one minute.
Sawyer helps Kate pull a “Scooby Doo” on Locke, and she ends up getting Miles down to the basement with Ben. I had no idea what was going to happen, but I certainly didn’t expect this.
Miles asks Ben for $3.2 million in exchange for telling his team that Ben is dead. Charlotte saw Ben, but Miles can take care of that. He gives Ben one week. He knows who Ben is and this apparently isn’t a problem for him to obtain.
How does he have that money and is it just lying around or something?
Kate gets her answer from Miles too. Yes, he knows who she is and that she’s a fugitive. Going back may not be the best thing, but we all know she does anyways. Why?
Kate’s Mom
Kate’s very sick mom asks for a meeting to make a deal. She’ll not testify in exchange for seeing her grandson. Kate will have no part of it and asks her to leave.
But her mom is very close to death, having been told she only had 6 months to live four years ago, so she withdraws as a witness anyways and the prosecution’s case falls apart. Kate takes a deal with no jail time and 10 years probation.
Back on the Island
So Daniel apparently has some memory problems. He can’t remember three playing cards after they are turned upside down. But Charlotte points out he’s making progress, so is the island’s healing properties working on him?
Jack had been trying to use the satellite phone all day to call the freighter, since it had been a day since Sayid and company left on the helicopter. With no luck, he asks Charlotte and Miles, and they call some emergency line which is answered.
The woman on the other end says the helicopter never arrived. WOAH! Where is it? I think we find out next week.
And finally, Locke goes a bit nuts in punishing Miles. He gets a grenade with a handle that you keep pressed once the needle is pulled in order to stop it from exploding. Well, he shoves the thing in Miles’ mouth, pulls the trigger and makes sure Miles is biting down on the handle. He then walks out.
Brutal…Locke is really losing his mind.
The Baby
In the future, Kate leaves the courtroom out the back door and runs into Jack. He tells her that he didn’t mean what he said on the stand, and obviously still loves her.
But the baby…he wont come see the baby. You immediately think the baby is Jack’s and that he wont be a part of the kid’s life for some reason and Kate tells him that until he comes to see them BOTH, there wont be a “Kate and Jack.”
Yet I knew the whole time who it was…and Kate gets home (a nice home, thanks Oceanic for a nice settlement!) and walks upstairs.
She takes the baby in her arms and the kid says “Hi mommy….”
Cute. But…
“Hi…AARON.”
BOOM!
I knew it of course, I’ll bet most figured that out, but the big question is: WTF?
Why does Kate have Aaron and why doesn’t Jack want to see him? Is the baby somehow part of the guilt that starts building up in Jack? Does Claire die, or do they take the kid without her permission, so he can’t bear to look at him?
Is Aaron an Oceanic 6 member? I somehow doubt it…but how did they explain the baby was Kate’s?
What do you think?
So what is going on here? What are the theories on anything?
Another amazing episode.
I can’t really figure out what “Eggtown” means either. Perhaps it is referring to Locke’s little civilization and how it might just be crumbling or is pretty fragile.
As for the Aaron revelation–they did a major foreshadow, probably one of the most obvious foreshadowing that the ENTIRE SERIES has had when Kate wouldn’t pick up Aaron.
The question about Aaron being one of the Oceanic 6 is a very interesting one as well. I mean, he WAS on the plane, after all.
In regards to Claire, I’m convinced she dies on the island, probably this season. Now, I’m guessing it’s something that Jack feels guilty about or he knows that Aaron is actually his nephew. My theory is that Jack finds out that Claire is his sister either right before or right after her death, he could have prevented Claire’s death (or he thinks he could have), and his guilt is what is making him not want to see the baby.
Mind blowing stuff, and I’m really, really looking forward to seeing Sayid and Desmond next week. (And maybe Michael-as Ben’s spy-on the freighter? That’s my other theory, anyway)
Oh. Oops. I was supposed to start watching ‘Lost’ for the first time. I guess it was tonight. Can I just read your recaps and call it even?
I’m thinking that if Claire dies then they (Jack) wouldn’t feel guilty about bringing Aaron back because it would be a good thing to help him when he has no mom. However, if they TOOK him, for reasons still unknown, but for which they felt they had no choice at the time but now Jack regrets…yeah, that would make Jack feel pretty bad… But Kate still thinks it was the right thing to do for some reason.
And is it just me or does Kate seems a little less likable now that she knows Jack loves her but she’s still whoring around with Sawyer?
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Whoring around, but they didn’t go ALL THE WAY, so that at least says something…she’s “trying” now, lol.
I still think Claire could have died, and Jack just can’t bear to look at Aaron because it reminds him of her, and he might have found out she’s his sister. I dunno.
But I also agree with Jason, so damn me!
Eggtown, Locke’s Town, I like that Chaplin…
Oceanic 8 = the Oceanic 6 + Michael and Walt…
Or so you think!
Nice recap, as always. I didn’t get the Eggtown reference, either. But from Lostpedia we have: “The Easter Egg Escapade: this children’s book, by John Michael Williams, was published in 1991. It tells the story of Eggtown, a peaceful village where rabbits and chickens live together in harmony until a band of thieving roosters conspire to steal all of Eggtown’s Easter Eggs. In order to retrieve the eggs, an unlikely group of heroes volunteers to go on the perilous journey. The ending features the redemption of Terrible Timothy Take-It, the leader of the thieving roosters.”
Glad I didn’t try to figure it out. Never would have guessed that.
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I propose this equation instead:
Oceanic 8 = the Oceanic 6 + Claire and ???
Not sure on who the 8th could be, but somehow the Oceanic 6 has to explain why a baby showed up. Claire survived the plane crash, but the story is that she gives birth, later ‘dies’ on the island and Kate decides to take care of the baby. Whether Claire is really dead or not, I dunno. Why would Claire and Aaron be separated in the first place? Although Aaron could have just been taken away, I prefer to believe that when the last group of the Oceanic 6 is taken off the island, there’s no room for Claire but she asks them to at least take the baby with them.
Ooooh…interesting Adrian…we don’t know if the rest of the world thinks it’s HER kid or adopted. Hmmm…
Kathy, nice find…the Locke town did seem a bit peaceful…almost strangely peaceful so soon (sitting around, making coffee, etc).
Oh, one more thing. When my husband and I watched the show together, we BOTH thought Kate said “Hi, Eric.” Eric! Who? What? It’s a shame, because “Aaron” clearly had better shock value and now we missed it. We apparently need our ears checked.
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That would have been a huge letdown
Eric?
I think Kate is trying to pass Aaron off as hers, because why else would her mom be so eager to meet “her grandson” unless she really thought it was hers.
True Jina, true…
Kate is a huge liar and player. She loves using people to get what she wants. Something tells me she is pulling a con, by pretending Aaron is her son (Even if she really does love him as her son). Why is she doing it? She knew her mother wouldn’t want to make her Grandson an orphan, and wouldn’t testify against Kate. I think she is pulling a Scooby-Doo on her mother and the whole world O_o
I believe that she is letting on as if it were her biological son. Also, the wife and I heard Aaron – but we have the advantage of DVR to rewind and rewatch.
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I don’t think it’s just her obviously, Jack knows too…so it’s not so much about Kate as it’s part of the lie they had to stick to.
I am curious to know if Jack even knows that Aaron is his nephew or not. Do you think that ever gets revealed?
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I still want to know what happens to Locke in the future… If he dies, I’ll die inside .___.
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I am pretty sure I read in many places that Jack will find out about their blood relation in Season 4. I am pretty sure it’ll be either on the Island, or Ben will tell him. Afterall “The Others” have very detailed information about all the Losties.
MadFan, I think I read that too…
Well – that would explain the strain between Jack and Kate.
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one thing. maybe kate is not pretending it’s her biological son since her lawyer wanted to bring him into the trial as a character witness. he made it seem like a great thing she did, so when he said that (which is when i figured it was aaron) i thought it was maybe b/c she is taking care of him for a supposedly dead claire. who knows though!
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One thought I had is that ‘the world’ thinks that Aaron is the child of Jack and Kate. That’s why the prosecutor asked Jack if he still loved Kate. We don’t know exactly how long they were lost so there could have been time enough. In any case, the world at large, including legal authorities, apparently has no reason to question if Aaron is Kate child.
As for the 3.2 million, I suspect that Miles is trying to exact some sort of revenge on Ben based on that number.
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I think this is a good recap of the eggtown episode. However,
I disagree with the perception that prior to finding out the baby is Aaron, that we are to assume that Jack doesn’t want to see the baby because it is His. Earlier in the Episode Kate informs Sawyer that she is not pregnant contrary to what is percieved from a prior episode. Sawyer is extactically relieved, and that makes Kate disappointed. I believe the writers purpose was to make us wonder whether Kate may have been lying to Sawyer that her pregnacy was a false alarm, and that Sawyer would most likely not find out about it esp. since Kate believes she is going to be rescued, while Sawyer wishes to stay on the island. Thus later on in Eggtown. When Jack and Kate are in the parking garage we are supposd to think that Jack doesn’t want to see the baby because it’s Sawyer’s w/ Kate. It makes no sense that Jack would not want to see his own son, but perfect sense why he wouldn’t want to see her son if she had it with Sawyer. Not a very important detail, but when you are writing a summary for serious veiwers it should be accurate.
Good points Zach (your first comment)…I guess you could have seen it both ways, and that part of the recap isn’t exactly a “recap” as much as it was a theory.
There could be many reasons why he didn’t want to see the kid and we really had no idea whether or not it was his, or Sawyers, or what time in the future it was…
I saw the situation different I guess…Jack obviously still loves Kate, but the child was stopping him from seeing here.
Maybe thinking it was his at that point was erroneous, but who knows, it could have been any reason. I’m certain you could come up with a plausible explanation why he wouldn’t want to see his own kid.
Regardless, thanks for reading the recap and all, I hope you stick around and join is for some good Lost discussions, you raised a good point.
@ Zach – your second question, I’m pretty sure the end of season 3 was after all this.
In fact, I’m pretty sure that all these flash-forwards and such, all the stories, are going to lead up to that point and next season, or whenever, we’ll catch up to that point and follow what happens afterwards.
Just my opinion.
To connect the dots and understand things better, you need to create a time line where you arrange the events in the flash-forwards.
For instance, let’s say this:
—1—2—3—4—————-###——> Timeline
1= ??????? Getting off the island ????????
2= ????????
3= When Kate was on trial (Season 4 ep 4)
4= When Jack saw Hurly and told him he’s considering growing a beard (Season 4 ep 1)
### = When Jack tried to suicide and called Kate to meet him (Season 3 finale)
Keep flashforwards in order and keep filling missing pieces and things will make perfect sense. Also, does anyone have any idea when did Saiyd’s assassination missions take place? I haven’t seen a single detail that implies it was happening before or after Jack attempts to suicide.
However, if Ben is the person in the casket (Season 3 Jack’s flashforward), then Saiyd’s flashforward happened before Jack’s suicide attempt.
I still want to find out why are they lying.. Why are they hiding the truth.. Jack, Hurly and Charlie mentioned “He needs us” “We have to go back”… Who is this “he” ?
I guess these questions is the thing that keeps pulling us back to watch Lost every single week. <3 Lost <3
There were no clues, that I can remember, of when Sayid’s flash-forward took place. The Season 3 finale is definitely the furthest ahead in time the show has gone.
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